Thursday, June 11, 2026

Phantom Planet/Augustana Show (Chicago) 6/07/26

     I had originally been deciding whether to go to the Chicago date or not, but was leaning towards going. Last summer Phantom Planet had played in Milwaukee at Summerfest, and then played in Urbana, IL three days later. I regretted not attending the Urbana show even though it would have been a 3 hour drive there and back on a Sunday. With Chicago being even closer it made sense to just go. For work I haven't had a consistent 9-11am client in over a month so I usually end up going in at 11am instead on M/W/F. I was banking on them not scheduling me until 11am on Monday and thankfully that was the case, as I arrived back to my apartment around 1:30am. With traffic it's over an hour and a half drive, without it's a little over an hour. After posting what shows I was planning on going to on Patreon a fan who ended up not being able to go to the show sent me her ticket for free. I hadn't upgraded to the VIP package for Chicago so I was planning on getting there when the doors opened around 7pm or after. I was sad I wouldn't be able to talk with the guys before the show, but it would have been a bit expensive, especially with doing VIP and Madison and then staying in a hotel for the night. After the Madison show I ended up writing personalized letters to each member, as well as their tour manager. I also gifted them sour patch gym which is a favorite of Alex and Darren. Since I wouldn't be doing VIP for Chicago I was going to hopefully be able to give the letters to the tour manager to give out to the band, and then maybe get to say goodbye after the show. They really love interacting with fans after shows if they can. 

   Having Saturday as a buffer day really helped. With it I was able to explore Madison and recover a little bit before the Chicago show. Driving back from Madison and then driving to the Chicago show seems crazy stressful. That way I wouldn't have to feel rushed either.  During Sunday afternoon I was talking with a fan, and mentioned that I was a little sad I wouldn't be doing VIP for the show, to which she encouraged me to ask to be added to the VIP list. They know most of the people from Patreon by name, and are always excited to see fans from the Patreon in person.  The other fan said that she thought that they felt more comfortable when we were around. On Instagram since I follow the Phantom Planet page and Darren's account and they follow me back if I direct message them on Instagram it pops up towards the top of their inbox. I respect their boundaries and don't usually send them messages. The most I interact with them on Instagram is replying to their Instagram stories. I decided to give it a shot and ask not thinking they would actually see it in time. The worst they could do was say "no", and I would totally respect if they did. To my surprise Darren replied within a couple of minutes saying "of course" and that "it was done." I would now be on the VIP list for the Chicago show. 

     Since I was leaving earlier for the show than originally planned I took my dog for a longer walk, and fed him early before leaving for Chicago. When I got the venue VIP had already started. I'm not sure how much I had missed. I'm assuming only a couple of minutes though. They did some songs acoustically, but this VIP session was Q+A heavy.  I asked what their favorite place they had gotten to go to so far had been meaning stores or restaurants not specific cities. Alex answered saying he had really enjoyed visiting a vintage clothing store in Madison. The store owner had just opened the store, and was excited to show off his collection. An audience member asked Dan (Augustana) what inspired him to write music. He answered that his family still inspired him especially his eldest daughter who had taken up songwriting and had been doing really well at it at. (She's 20). Alex said something along the lines of being intrigued to hear music from the product of his loins??? That is a really weird way of saying he was excited to hear his daughter's music at some point. 🤣 He also talked about the importance of keeping a piano in his house. Since Dan is a fan of Phatom Planet himself he asked them what their favorite show they had played was during their career. They answered with opening for Incubus at Madison Square Garden, and opening for Guns N' Roses in Las Vegas, both of which took place in the early 2000s when they were at the height of their career. They told about how Axl Rose had requested all 20 dressing rooms be his, and how no one but the band was allowed at soundcheck. As a small way to rebel Phantom Planet snuck into the soundcheck and hid behind some chairs, and thankfully weren't caught. Their dressing room ended up being in an alleyway outside the venue with a singular chair next to a dumpster. They emphasized that they were very thankful for the opportunity, and still very much respected Guns N' Roses even after all of that. They were super convinced that the Guns N' Roses fans would not like them, but they actually did. Dan said his favorite Augustana show was in Minneapolis when they played at Prince's venue, First Avenue around 2005. He also stated Minneapolis is his favorite city to perform in, in general. A fan I recognized from Patreon, Andy asked if Phantom Planet could play one of their unreleased songs from the upcoming album entititled "Never Apart". (On Patreon Phantom Planet has done livestreams playing through the unreleased songs for us to hear.) 

     Since Phantom Planet had just played a song, it was Dan's turn to perform. He suggested that they do a song together. When thinking about what song to do Dan suggested doing a Beatles song.  (Dan however didn't know any Beatles songs even though he suggested it 🤣). This lead to Alex attempting to make his way through "I'm Only Sleeping" while not knowing half of the lyrics just the guitar parts. I sang what I thought were the correct lyrics. (If Alex doesn't rehearse the songs he's written years ago then he forgets the lyrics, even though he wrote the lyrics. It's a normal thing, but I guess I never took it into account before.) Dan then asked them what each of their favorite Beatles was, stating that a person's favorite Beatle says a lot about them. I would have liked him to elaborate on that. Alex said Ringo, but it's unclear if that was his actual favorite. Andrew and Dan said Paul, and then Chris and Darren said George. (Justice for John Lennon.) (Paul McCartney is my favorite, but since no one picked John :P) Darren's dad had texted him asking what he was up to so he recorded the whole crowd saying "Hi Harvey". They said Chicago had the biggest VIP crowd yet, and Alex said how he recognized pretty much everyone.

  They then began taking pictures with fans. For my group picture this time I told them I wanted to do a silly photo and asked them if they had any ideas. Alex said that for some reason he thought I was going to say, "I want to take a silly picture, are you guys wearing underwear?" ????I am still confused. 😅 They didn't have ideas for the picture but did last second poses. I had handed Alex my heart sunglasses to add to the fun of the photo. Alex jokingly said that the sunglasses were his now to which I jokingly agreed. He handed them back and patted me on the back. I handed them the bag with letters and gum before the doors opened for the general audience. I then got situated by the stage. I ended up being the tallest person in the front row for Phantom Planet's set I would find out through pictures and videos of the show. 

      The person stood to my right was a big Augustana fan and insisted to his friends that they come right when the doors opened. He was able to secure a front row spot. He said he had invited his friends to come along and bought them all tickets. Apparently he makes a lot of money at his accounting job. He introduced me to his friends, and said they had been out bar hopping before the show but only had 2 drinks so far. His friends seemed cool, and joked about him being so close to the stage. Ironically one of said friends would replace him during Phantom Planet's set after she had gotten wasted....The accountant guy was well over 6 ft and she was like 5'2 or shorter, which made sense as to why she would want to switch. It turns out the 5'2 girl goes to a lot of concerts, over 50 a year.

  Between Augustana's and Phantom Planet's set beer bottles were placed on the stage, one right next to the guitar pedals. I might have gotten electrocuted if the beer had accidentally spilled. To open the beer bottles Chris brought a balisong (butterfly knife) on stage and handed it to Alex. Alex told us up front not to worry that the knife didn't have it's blade. They like to tricks with the knives to pass the time, and Alex even wrote a song called "Balisong". They had a hard time opening the bottles with the balisong but eventually got it. The stage was lower so you could easily lean and grab things on the stage if you wanted.  Alex for some reason left his beer toward the edge of the stage and jokingly told me and the girl to my left not to put drugs in or spit in his beer. Man is too trusting. I would never leave a drink out in the open like that, especially as a more well-known person. He did take drinks from it throughout the show after leaving it unsupervised to go backstage before their set. It did turn out to be fine of course, but there were definitely some crazier fans at this particular show. With everyone being in an older demographic I thought there would be more mature fans and I guess that is true for the most part, but there are still some. 

   Alex was less talkative this show between songs. During the beginning of their set Alex talked about how if they had any money they would move to Chicago, because they love being there. Dan from Augustana had actually wrote some of the Augustana's songs in Chicago as well. (I could go on a whole rant about this but it does really irk me that you can't really make it as a musician anymore financially, unless you're one of the biggest artists. Otherwise you spend a lot of money producing songs especially if you're not signed to a record label which would also take your money and leave you with less creativity. Going on tour is also expensive, and most bands just break even and rely on merch sales or platforms like Patreon with paid subscriptions. Streaming songs has taken away the desire for physical media, and getting your songs streamed also pays very little unless you have a lot of big hits.) 

   During the beginning of their set Alex had said that he already had made way to much eye contact with the audience already. Alex is very philosophical minded and told us that we are all apart of the same tribe, and it's fine if you haven't accepted that yet. Being in Chicago the venue had a strong smell of pot in the air. Alex ended up playing guitar at the edge of the stage in front of me this time. A setlist was placed a few inches in front of me on the stage after Alex complained about not being able to see it again. I was excited because that meant I could easily grab it after the show. (I'm sentimental and had yet to get any setlists or picks from a show. I do think after you've gotten one item you should let other fans get items too so you're not hoarding items. Unless you go to a ton of shows in general and pay a lot of money then I think it's a little more acceptable.) After playing the song "Drive On II" someone in the audience shouted "Bone Zone", which was the original title of the song. (If you know, you know.) Alex performed a little snippet from it before moving onto the next song. During "Lonely Day" Alex had Darren start the vocals to the song. Darren quoted "The Goonies", and because of this Alex stated that quoting things is a form of echolalia. (As a Behavior Technician I can say he wasn't using the term correctly. Echolalia is more repeating sounds of things repeatedly, whereas quoting shows and movies over and over again is known as scripting. The more you know.) At the end of their biggest hit, "California" someone shot their bra on stage. Alex ended up picking it up and wearing it like a blindfold before handing out a drumstick to someone in the audience. (I thought it had been a pair of underwear at first, so I'm actually kind of relieved it was a bra, not that Alex would have done the same with underwear). Since Alex was wearing the bra like a blindfold and trying to decide who to give the drumstick too I thought he might throw the drumstick into the audience like a bouquet toss at a wedding. (That would be pretty dangerous though.) The two girls stood to my right ended up playing rock paper scissors for it. When the other girl had one, the girl stood right next to me asked if she could have the bra. Alex was definitely confused as to why she would want the bra, but didn't want it himself so he handed it to her. (This is the same girl I mentioned before who was very much super drunk at this point. She hadn't even been there originally to see Phantom Planet, but in her drunken state must have taken a liking to Alex.....). She did the very strange action of putting the bra into her cleavage. While doing the action Alex asked if she was putting it on, to which she pointed to her chest and said she had put it in her cleavage. (A revealing shirt of course.) Alex made the statement that, that was even weirder than wearing it, and you could tell he was visibly uncomfortable at that point. (Women get away with objectifying men more than the other way around. It's really gross either way, and irks me especially after forming a friendship with these guys.) 

     Phantom Planet played their "last" song before security was adamant about everyone leaving the main part of the venue. One of the techs on stage told the main security person that Alex had wanted to come back out into the audience and perform acoustically. That kind of ruined the whole encore thing, of having the audience shout to get the band back onstage. With the security being strict some fans had already left the venue not thinking there would be an encore after that. (The cringy lady from before ended up reaching over and snatching the setlist that was in front of me, after the show had ended.) It's made me sad especially since she hadn't even been there to see Phantom Planet in the first place and was acting really entitled. I decided to see if I could get one of the other setlists by asking the stage techs. I pointed to one kind of hidden in the back by the drums, and he went and got it. However, he ended up handing it to another fan that was reaching towards the stage when he came to the front, saying after that, that there were no setlists left???? I guess I was just really unlucky. 

   Alex did come into the crowd, but since we weren't allowed to stay in the main part he lead the crowd to the front/bar area of the venue which was even more intimate for an acoustic show.  I stayed towards the back during that. Alex sang "Athem" as everyone else sang along. He then went into the soldering iron story like he had in Madison before performing "Local Black and Red." The 5'2 girl had been standing pretty close to Alex during the performance, and in her drunken state had thought she would be able to bag either Alex or Darren apparently. Alex went backstage after the show instead of lingering like he had done with the rest of the band in Madison. The security then wanted people to start leaving the bar area due to shutting down the venue for the night. I left when I was told. Before I did the 5'2 girl got another beer and told me how it had been so nice to meet me while slurring her words. I was nice back despite not really feeling the best way about her. Around 6 fans stood out front to hopefully talk to the band. I was hoping to say goodbye to the band before leaving as I wouldn't be going to anymore shows. (I do have the Red Rocks concert but it will be so huge that I won't be able to talk to them.) They didn't end up coming out to talk to fans that night and I wonder if it was because of the 5'2 girl. (She was actually a woman in her mid 40s). I told the fans outside that I thought they would for sure come out because they loved interacting with fans.  While the bar portion of the venue was still open Darren did come out, and talk with some of the fans left inside. I was outside at that point. I pointed out to the fans outside that Darren had come out so he would probably come outside soon. He didn't, but the girl did. While waiting for her Uber she chatted to me again while now hiccuping and slurring her words. She told me about other concerts she attended, and how her 16 year old daughter had been doing the same now. How she had slept with various band members in the past (her not the 16 year old) and how she quote "was not a slut." I listened politely, and chimed in occasionally. (Just to say if it's consensual than it's fine.) After talking for awhile she asked me if I wanted both the bra and the setlist, since I had actually been there to see Phantom Planet. I declined the bra, but said that I would really appreciate the setlist and thanked her. She thought she had made a connection with Darren and said something to another fan that I didn't hear, but must have been about that. The other fan had thought she was talking about Dan from Augustana and stated that he had a lot of kids, and has been married for a long time. (He has 4 kids.) She pulled up a picture of her and Darren that she had just taken with him moments before and said "him." To which I replied, "Darren???" (Darren is definitely in a serious, committed relationship with his girlfriend so there's no shot he was actually interested and was just being nice.) I didn't tell her all that though. Chris (touring bassist) came out after that with two friends, thanked me for the letter, and gum before walking off, and hugged me. (Phantom Planet had the day off the next day so I think he ended staying with friends that night.) The 5'2 girl greeted him and asked for a picture before hugging him before he left as well. At that point the girl's Uber had arrived and she hugged me before leaving. All that was left was me and one other fan, but she was also waiting for her Uber at that point. (It had only been 30 minutes of waiting outside so not that long for anyone wondering.) I started walking back to the parking garage after that, as I was walking I saw Phantom Planet's band drive past. You could tell it was them because their tour manager was up front driving with their tour photographer in the passenger seat. I waved, but they probably didn't see. I had only walked a little ways down the sidewalk at that point so I went back to tell the fan about how I had just seen their van drive past so she would know they were actually gone.

    The way back to the parking garage was confusing as it was 4 streets intersecting diagonally. Both the parking garage and the venue were located on the same street, but I couldn't figure out where the road continued at the intersection. I headed to where I thought I had come from, but secondguessed myself when Google Maps was pointing in the opposite direction of where I had come from. I walked that way for a few minutes before turning around after I didn't recognize any of the places I was passing. I ended up figuring out which road was the correct one and finally came upon the parking garage. What should have been a 5 minute walk turned into 15. (Thanks Google Maps). (To anyone nervous the venue, Lincoln Hall, was located in Lincoln Park which is one of the safest/richest areas of Chicago, I was clutching my pepper spray, made sure not to look down at my phone too much and walk quickly.) I got home around 1:30 and thankfully didn't need to go into work until 11am the following day. 









Tuesday, June 9, 2026

Phantom Planet/Augustana Show in Madison (6/05/26)

       To celebrate the 20th anniversary of their debut album, "All the Stars and Boulevards" (2005), Augustana decided to do a special anniversary tour. The lead singer Dan Layus said that Phantom Planet had been a big inspiration to them as they were starting up, especially since both bands were formed in Southern California. With Phantom Planet being formed in Los Angeles, and Augustana being formed in San Diego. They had been wanting to tour with Phantom Planet for years and were finally able too. Both bands had top selling hits in the early 2000's. Phantom Planet's being "California (OC Theme Song), and Augustana's being "Boston." 

     I hadn't seen Phantom Planet since Summerfest so when they announced this tour I knew I needed to check out the Madison date, and possibly the Chicago date. Amazingly those dates both occurred on a weekend so I wouldn't have to take off work, and be able to rest more. It also gave me the opportunity to book a hotel in Madison on a Friday night and then explore more of Madison the next day before heading back home. With the Madison concert being on a Friday night, and Chicago being on a Sunday it was definitely nice to have Saturday as a buffer day between. Two nights of concerts is doable, but sounds extra exhausting, especially getting there early. As an amazing coincidence I'll be seeing Phantom Planet perform at a dream venue at Red Rocks amphitheater in less than two weeks.  It just so happened that the date of my vacation with my parents to Colorado would line up with the concert. They'll play first and have a shorter set than usual, but it will still be incredible seeing them perform there. They are opening for Gavin Degraw, and OAR. I was able to find a way cheaper ticket, thanks to a fellow fan. Usually Red Rock tickets are $200+ due to the venue itself being in the mountains. I'll probably be closer to the back for this show, but I am just ecstatic to see a show there, and to have my current favorite band performing just adds to that excitement even more. I am blown away by the generosity of fellow Phantom Planet fans. One for selling me the ticket to Red Rock for such a bargain price, and one for giving me a free ticket to the show in Chicago when I was still deciding if I was going to go or not. I am also always blown away by the generosity, and intentionality of Phantom Planet themselves. You can tell that they care so much about their fans, and it shows. I love the little community that was created through Patreon. (Now onto the actual Madison show itself, since that's the main topic of this post. :P) 

    I bought a VIP ticket for the Madison show, and that meant being able to enter the venue early. The perks were beating the line for merch, early access to the show, an acoustic set put on by Augustana and Phantom Planet as they took requests from the audience, and a meet n' greet with Phantom Planet and Dan from Augustana. Due to the earlier check in time I decided to leave work after my 1pm client left for the day. I was planning on stopping home quickly to grab my stuff and say goodbye to my dog before driving around 2 hours to the show. I would check into my hotel an hour before VIP, and be able to not rush, and maybe straighten my hair. That is unfortunately not what happened.

     I left for Madison about 2:30. Everything was fine until Google Maps lead me to a major road that was closed to all traffic. No one told Google Maps about the closure. I turned around and had Google Maps hopefully put me on a different route. The route it redirected me to took me to a rural neighborhood. As I made my way through the neighborhood I came upon a lady telling everyone to turn around because apart of that road was also closed. At first I thought she was telling me to pull around the truck in front of me that was backing up, but rolled down my window to ask. It turns out the truck was also trying to turn around. Google Maps then lead me back to the closed major road at which point I pulled off to the side of the road. Google Maps had originally showed me 3 different routes I could have taken, but this one was supposed to be the fastest. I was hoping to find one of the other routes, but for some reason couldn't find another way. I think Google Maps had lead quite a few people astray, because there were quite a few cars that also pulled off to the side of the road. By that point it was 4:30 and I still had an hour of my drive left. VIP would take place at 6:15. I would definitely not be able to rest quick before it started. I have the Life 360 app on my phone where people who you've added can see your exact location. My mom and I can both see each other's location on the app whenever. (I originally downloaded it for when I was traveling semi-solo in Europe just in case.) It's actually pretty helpful though for when you do get lost as I found out. For some reason though while talking with my mom on the phone, my phone reception kept going in and out. At one point I questioned if there was even a way to make it to Madison from where I was. I started heading in the direction my mom suggested I should go during one of the many phone calls I had to make with the bad reception before my phone cut out completely. No bars, and my wifi stopped working. I thought maybe that wherever I was, was just really remote with terrible signal, and just kept driving in the same direction for 15 minutes. I decided to try and see if turning my phone off and then back on again would work, and thankfully it did. All the sudden I had full bars again? I called my mom to get an update on my location. I ended up turning Google Maps on again after a few minutes, and it actually took me to the freeway, and thankfully the freeway was open ha ha. I got to my hotel around 5:35 and checked in quickly and dropped off my stuff and did my makeup before rushing out and making the 20 minute drive into town. I made it to the parking lot at 6:05, and had 10 minutes to spare. My 2 hour drive took 3 hours instead and I was very stressed. 

   I immediately saw faces I recognized as I approached the venue. Two women from the online Patreon group. (They had also gone to the first stop of the tour in Minneapolis the night before.)  I had never met them before in person, but recognized them instantly from interacting with them online. It definitely didn't feel like we were meeting for the first time. We chatted outside as we waited before being checked into VIP. Another woman from the Patreon showed up as well with her nephew who I had actually interacted with at the Summerfest show the prior summer. (She had also been at the same show as me when Phantom Planet played the Chicago House of Blues in the fall of 2024.) Most of the fans are around the bands age so an early to mid 40s majority. 

    During the acoustic show Phantom Planet and Dan would alternate doing songs. VIP that night ended up being all Phantom Planet fans so I felt bad for Dan because of that, but of course everyone was still excited to see him play songs as well. Phantom Planet took requests for songs and ended up playing "Drive On II", "Waiting for the Lights to Change", "ROTK", "Through the Trees", and a non-released joke song called "Covet Away". I feel like I'm definitely missing a song, maybe two. Emma from Patreon made the comment that us fans always ask Phantom Planet to play songs from "Devastator"(the album that was released in 2020 ironically) because they never toured the album due to it being 2020. Dan played a song called "Coffee and Cigarettes", but I don't remember what else. (Really wish my memory were better with these things.) There was a discussion on older guitars, and how with some you had to tie the guitar strap on. Before the meet n' greet Alex flashed his phone screen at us for 1 second, and said it was the album cover. All I could see was a blue screen and a tiny symbol.  During the meet n' greet we took a group pic with all of us that were there from the Patreon with Phantom Planet and Dan. I was surprised at how many people from Patreon came to the Madison show of all places. In most of the meet n' greet photos Alex (the frontman of Phantom Planet), is holding up the blue phone-screen. We took individual pictures with the band after that, and then got situated by the stage before waiting for Augustana to perform. I chatted with Emma and Caren from Patreon again before the show. Standing for over 5 hours straight in flat shoes ended up being pretty brutal, but I got to be right up against the stage. (I love that in smaller venues you get to be that close, but also that seems a little dangerous for the musicians.) During our chat we exchanged cat pics with the exception that I definitely have a dog and not a cat. A dog that got his name suggested by Alex of Phantom Planet. He had suggested a few names, but I can only recall Astro and Onyx. 

   I didn't really know any of the Augustana songs, but didn't want to seem uninterested especially with being in the front row. So I made sure to move along to all of the songs. I was pretty much stood in front of Dan during Augustana's performance. During their set a centipede kept randomly running across the front of the stage. Only us fans in the front row seemed to notice though. It never got close enough to be squashed so I guess it gets to live on somewhere in the venue.  At the venue there were random pieces of confetti on the ceiling that would fall down at really random times of the set, so I wonder what that was all about, ha ha. They weren't supposed to have confetti fall during their set so I think the vibrations of the music maybe caused it. I will definitely be checking out their music. They write really catchy songs, and Dan is super sweet. The band is also super talented as a whole, so I would definitely love to discover more about them. Dan would frequently have the biggest smile on his face while performing. He also was very intentional during the meet n' greet with introducing himself and just being really friendly, even to us fans who weren't specifically there to see his band. I just looked it up and it said that Dan is actually the sole member of Augustana currently, and the rest of the band is touring musicians, which makes sense as to why he was the only one who was there during the VIP portion of the show. Dan was also super intrigued to get to know Phantom Planet better, you could tell that he was also a fan of them. He really loved getting to know Phantom Planet's newer songs, and hear about the upcoming album Phantom Planet is putting out later this year. 

   There was about a half hour between sets as Phantom Planet set up their gear for their portion of the concert. When Phantom Planet did come on stage Alex made a joke about how Phantom Planet had just played and how they're Augustana, followed by a joke about being dyslexic, and jokingly saying he would beat up anyone who laughed at the joke up after class, with it being a legit diagnosis. (Alex was definitely more unhinged during the Madison show then at any other shows of theirs I have been to.) It made the whole experience way more unique though and felt more like one of the livestreams they would do on Patreon where there was little structure. During the set they forgot to perform "Lonely Day" and started playing "Geronimo" instead. After Geronimo was over someone pointed out that they had skipped "Lonely Day", to which Alex replied that he was mad we could see the setlist and he couldn't without his glasses, and would also beat them up after class. Alex talked about how at one show they had played "Lonely Day" 3x in a row (purposely). A fan joked about how they should play "Geronimo" again after they finished "Lonely Day" because that was what was next on the setlist. He asked the audience if they wanted him to do "Geronimo" again or play another song that started with "g" that was a rarity. Most of the audience wanted the rarity, so they played "Galleria". A song about a mall in Los Angeles where "Valley Girl", and "Fast Times at Ridgemont High" was filmed that was supposed to get torn down. It turns out that they never actually tore it down but rebranded it into a different mall after Alex wrote a whole song about it. During the show Alex talked about how they were currently finishing up the new album, but about how he keeps tweaking it due to his OCD which is also a very real diagnosis. Between songs Alex threw in a couple Epstein jokes, for instance before they played "Galleria" he announced it as being called Epstein Episode 3: The Galleria. At one point despite trying to move into the next song Alex would not stop talking so Darren (the guitarist) gave up and sat on a speaker on stage while waiting for him to finish. At one point Alex came up to the edge of the stage while playing guitar directly in front of the couple stood at my left. We made eye contact, and he said "hi" before going further back on stage. I wonder what my face was saying during that moment, it felt weirdly intense. 

   Alex made a joke about how a licensed therapist fan towards the front was secretly diagnosing him, and writing in her notebook. He emphasized how he always tries to make the audience and the other guys in the band laugh during their set, and about the importance of living in the now. How one of their new songs called "Yesterday's Dead" was written about a breakup, but it is also about the importance of living in the moment. Towards the end of the set a fan brought up four cans of Pabst Blue Ribbon beer for the guys. (Those LA boys needed to have some Wisconsin beer). During their last songs Alex joked that there was only 28 more songs to go, which would have actually been fine for us fans. :PPP The comment was mostly made due to the fact they were getting through their set much slower than usual due to Alex's talking between songs. They played their top hit "California" when a comment about cats was made in the audience afterwards. Alex asked, "Did you just say you want to sing like a cat, if so get up here." (That was definitely not the comment that was made, but someone in the audience then started meowing the melody of "California".) They performed their last song before going offstage. The audience cheered for them to go back on stage, but instead Alex appeared in the audience with an acoustic guitar and began playing as a circle formed around him. He played the song "Anthem" acoustically. My back and feet were in bad shape at this point so 3 other fans and I decided to sit on the edge of the stage and watch. In the middle of the song however the other members came back on stage to add more to the background music of the song. Alex went back on stage after that with the rest of the band and played two more songs. We had gotten off the stage by then.

    Before playing "Local Black and Red" Alex told the audience how Jason Schwartzman had wrote the song. Alex and Jason Schwartzman went to the same high school in Los Angeles, and Jason was the original drummer of Phantom Planet before pursuing acting in 2003. Alex told an anecdote about how he had gotten a vintage guitar from a thrift store, and thought he would be able to figure out how to use a soldering iron to fix it. He was at Jason's house at age 16 with the soldering iron before it then got connected to his skin and wouldn't come out, and ripped pieces of his skin away. He didn't give the details of if he then had to go to the hospital or not. He said about 2 weeks later he was in his Spanish class when he knocked the scab off and pure red blood started spurting everywhere. Details we definitely did not need to know. He told us how the Spanish teacher had usually believed in him a little too much, but that day asked him to leave. Apparently he was Russian but spoke really good Spanish. The fact that he was Russian came after he namedropped his Spanish teacher using Mr. as the suffix. An audience member shouted senor, and Alex replied, "Not in this case...no." :P (The story has nothing to do with the actual song, but all those events happened around the same time.) 

   Phantom Planet's set ended around 11pm, and they stayed around talking with fans until they were told to start finishing up around midnight. I chatted with the other fans from Patreon until that time. I wanted to let other fans be able to interact with the band, as we get to interact with them so much already due to the Patreon. It turns out Marissa from the Patreon had also come to the show with her boyfriend. I had met Marissa the prior year at Summerfest. Her and her boyfriend had also struggled with the same closed highway on their way to the show. While we were walking towards the exit the tour manager told us that he thought it had stopped drizzling outside. It technically had stopped drizzling and was actually now downpouring. Thankfully the parking lot was right across the street. The guys loaded their stuff onto the van as I was leaving the parking lot. I had gone without food since lunch time that day, so I was pretty hungry. (Besides a cookie the hotel gave me when I checked in? The venue didn't have any food, and I didn't want to give up my spot in the front row anyways.) I quickly ran through Taco Bell before returning to the hotel. 

   The following day I got to explore a little bit of Madison before heading home. I first checked out a vintage toy store called Meep Meepington's. The store contained a lot of amazing vintage toys from most decades including the most valuable toy in his collection of an alien from the movie "Aliens". He said the toy got discontinued because "Aliens" was rated R, and the toy was actually scary. There were so many things to look at. I visited some other shops in that area while walking down the street. A lot of the stores were selling art from local artists. I didn't end up buying anything from any of the stores, but it was neat to get to look around. I got an iced vanilla latte from a local coffee shop called "Lazy Janes" and sat enjoying my coffee while reminiscing about the show the night before. Across the street from the coffee shop was a St. Vinnies which I browsed through before heading back home. (The hotel had a complimentary breakfast buffet so I was all set with that.) It was a very warm sunshiny day. 

   If you read this very long detailed post then thank you. I know it probably has way more details than needed but I wrote it mostly for me to have in the future to look back on. I do hope you enjoyed reading though if you made it this far. :) It took me much longer than I thought to type this all up. I'll do the same for the Chicago show when I get the chance so look out for that if you're interested. 






    




Friday, February 27, 2026

30th Birthday Adventure

    Thank you everyone for the birthday wishes, I had a really great day! I took off today and yesterday to celebrate. 1st I got my hair done before getting a celebration cookie from Crumbl. After packing up everything I went to Milwaukee and stayed at the Saint Kate's hotel, and it was everything I hoped it would be. You're given a glass of champagne at check in, and by the reception desk is different records you can take to your room to listen to. In each room is a ukulele, a paper with colored pencils, a TV with access to Netflix and Hulu, a record player, and different art pieces. (The hotel was filled with different art pieces throughout, and even had art exhibits within it. It was very neat.) The front desk sent a bottle of champagne to my room to help celebrate my birthday along with a set of affirmation cards, and a birthday cake chocolate bar. Every night they have live music in the lobby which has a bar. I sat and watched for a little while before going to a local bar a few blocks away. The bar had 60s and 70s music playing every Thursday. It wasn't great, but the bartender was really nice, and made me a tropical drink, and gave me a lemon drop shot for free. (For anyone worried. I did not drink a lot last night. Only a tiny bit. I took the bottle of champagne home with me from the hotel room. I made sure to stay super safe too, since it's Milwaukee at night.) There ended up being a drunk guy from Racine there because of course there was. 😅 He wanted to buy me a drink but I declined after having enough. I made sure to drink a whole glass of water before heading back to the hotel. It turns out @phantomplanet was doing a live show where they previewed their new music for their upcoming album and answered some questions. (Honored they would stream for my birthday 😅 Jk). I listened to the livestream and popped into the live chat at times while coloring in my new Stranger Things Coloring Book I got for my birthday. Alex from Phantom Planet reminisced about his own 30th Birthday. 

         Today I woke up and got breakfast at another dining area of the hotel which has cocktails and dinner at night and breakfast in the morning. I had avocado toast, and a latte while sitting in the sunshine, and watching outside the window. Checkout from the hotel wasn't until noon so I made sure to get the most out of my stay. I went back to my hotel room and listened to records I had brought along with me while playing ukulele and guitar. (Brought my guitar too.) I listened to the "Raise the Dead" record by Phantom Planet, and half of "Help" by the Beatles before it was time to go. After checking out I checked out Downtown Books, and Anthropologie. I then went to an antique mall called Antiques on Pierce which had 4 floors of antiques. It was fantastic but also intimidating with so many antiques everywhere. (There ended up being a lady from Slinger there, looking at the store too.) It was probably my favorite antique place I've been to so far! I got a mini grand piano figurine, and mini directors chair figurine. (The mini directors chair for my brother and sister-in-law).

    My brother and sister-in-law watched Astro last night and today while I was gone. Astro even slept in their bed last night. 😅 But was spooked by the fact that they kidnapped him yesterday without me there. As in he did not want to get into their car. The whole thing was a wonderful experience, and felt empowering to have done alone. Sometimes you should just do things solo, if they can't be done with someone, otherwise you miss out on such cool experiences. 

















Friday, January 16, 2026

My Top 10 Favorite Stranger Things Characters

 Favorite Characters (Top 10)

1) Will: I already explained this in my last blogpost, but basically I relate to Will the most. He has gone through so much, and shown resilience through it. He is kind, empathetic, and encourages his friends. He is also way stronger than he feels, which was showcased in Season 5 when he hijacks the hivemind. 



2) Mike: Both Mike and Will get a lot of hate as characters, and I don't understand it. Mike is an excellent leader, and is encouraging to his friends. Mike is brave and in control of his emotions. He's able to be level-headed in intense situations. He is optimistic, and believes in the best outcomes. He is a really good friend, especially towards Will. He treats everyone as equals. 


3) Eleven: Throughout the series Eleven learns what it means to be human, after being experimented on in a lab all of her life. She learns what love and friendship are, and fights for those she loves. She is misunderstood, and bullied for being different. She's the main hero of the series, and jumps into action whenever it's needed. She is always ready to fight. 


 
4) Max: Max is introduced in Season 2 as being a tomboy. She's into skateboarding, and going to the arcade. Due to this the boys are very interested in her. Her character really shines in Season 4 and especially Season 5. Max deals with grief and depression after her step brother dies. Due to this the main villain of Stranger Things, Vecna targets her. She fights against Vecna, and in Season 5 travels through his memories in order to save the 12 children that are being targeted. She becomes a good friend to Eleven in Season 3, and teaches her how to be her own person.


 
5) Steve: In Season 1 Steve is a high school bully. However, at the end of Season 1 he steps in to help out Nancy and Jonathan after they lure a monster into Jonathan's house. From that moment on Steve's character arc is redeemed. He is quick to put himself in harms way in order to help his friends. He has a big brother role to the group of kids especially Dustin. 



6) Dustin: Dustin is one of the smartest characters in the show, and is shown as the star science student. Due to this Dustin is able to come up with plans to help out the others fight against the monsters. Dustin also uses his knowledge from Star Wars, and Dungeons and Dragons to help in situations. He is loyal to his friends, and fun-loving. 


7) Nancy. Nancy is another character that changes for the better. In the first season it seems like she is a goodie-two-shoes which isn't a bad thing. Throughout each season she becomes more fierce, and independent. She shows she is a hard-working woman that doesn't deserve to be put down by men. She is powerful, and brave, and a sharp shooter. 



8) Joyce: Joyce is the mom of Will and Jonathan. She does everything in her power to find Will in the first season when he goes missing. She never gives up hope of bringing him home, even after everyone in town seems to have given up. After Will is brought back home she does everything in her power to be there for him as he deals with the after effects of his kidnapping. She's highly protective, and works hard to give her sons a good life as a single mom. 

9) Lucas: Lucas is a loyal friend to his core group of friends. He is skeptical of El at first, and works to go find Will in the 1st season. He brings in little lines of humor to the show for instance in Season 5 he says, "Suck it Neil Armstrong" when they step foot in the Abyss which looks like a new planet. It's so subtle, but I thought it was so funny. I also love how in Season 5 how he stands up for Dustin against bullies. He is dedicated to Max and visits her everyday in the hospital, believing she will come back. He carries her comatose body out of danger, and kicks one of the monsters that was after her. 



 10) Hopper: I know Hopper is higher on most people lists, but I do find him intimidating. He has been hurt many times earlier in life, and due to this his personality has been hardened. He's pessimistic at the beginning of the series, and handles others harshly. However, he is very sweet with Joyce and El. He treats, and adopts Eleven as his daughter. He is willing to fight for those he loves, even to the point of even considering sacrificing himself in Season 5. He doesn't give up on what he sets his mind to, even going as far as escaping a Russian prison.
















Tuesday, January 13, 2026

Stranger Things and How I Relate to Will Byers

     Stranger Things has become my favorite show ever. There was something about watching these kids grow up and go on adventures these past almost ten years. I was more the age of the actors in high school, but seemed to relate more to the core group of kids, especially Will. Just to say I feel like I have the most in common with Will, but not in a queer sense. The core group of kids are outcasts, and I was an outcast too during school. Stranger Things isn't a show that I thought I'd like as much as I have. The storytelling throughout the show, and having such a talented cast makes it hard not to love. The deepness of the show is something I really appreciate. Stranger Things is rarely ever surface level. It showcases deep trauma, but does it in a lighthearted/nostalgic way. The themes of supernatural entities, other dimensions, and monsters is not a show I thought I'd ever latch onto. I remember watching the first episode, which ends with the children finding Eleven.(a girl with a shaved head escaping from being experimented on.) It's pouring rain, and Will has just gone missing. When eleven first appears, you are not sure who she is, so I assumed maybe she was evil. A little girl with a shaved head in the middle of the night while its pouring rain just appears after your friend goes missing???? I was afraid it would play out like a horror movie. Stranger Things does have horror themes, but the core themes are about friendship, and love overcoming evil. Much like the IT series or even Harry Potter. (Most horror movies don't have happy endings, but this series is different.) Will goes through problems that the others can't understand, Will is more reserved, Will is very underestimated, and in turn doesn't fully believe in himself. Will is sensitive, resilient, and kind even after going through so many struggles. He uses these struggles to become stronger, and build wisdom. His DND character is known as "Will the Wise." 

     At the end of 2017 I remember watching Season 2 with my parents. I was rewatching the season over winter break from college with them, because they really liked the show as well. The end of 2017 was when my anxiety was at it's worst, and I experienced depression for the first time. The medication I had been on, had stopped working. Stranger Things was there when I had to wait the brutal six weeks for my new medication to start working. It was one of the only things I could focus on, and that brought me joy. In a world where I could barely move into another room without fear of causing a panic attack. One where I had to pep talk myself for 20 minutes to even get into the car. Things that should be so easy. Part of the reason Stranger Things brought me comfort, is how much I felt I related to Will in Stranger Things 2. I wasn't possessed by a demonic entity, or stolen by a monster, but I could relate to his level of anxiety. Will Byers was actually in danger, where I was in no danger at all. 

    In Season 1 the kids learn that other dimensions exists, and that that is where their friend Will was taken to. We first learn this through Eleven. Eleven is one of the children that was experimented on by the government in order to go into other dimensions. Eleven take's the boy's DND board flips it over, and puts the figure of the monster on it once it has been flipped. This is where she says Will is. A place that after it is discovered is coined the "Upside Down." The "Upside Down" is described as being stuck between two realities. When I am having a panic attack it feels like I'm stuck between the past, and the future, not in the present. 

   Season 2 of Stranger Things focuses on Will being back in the real world, and dealing with the trauma of having been taken to another dimension. In Season 2 Will has what the show refers to as episodes. During these episodes Will feels like he is back in the "Upside Down" at random times, even when he's hanging out with his friends. In these moments Will is overcome with sheer terror, which continues to happen throughout the seasons. Will's episodes it turns out are due to the fact he is being possessed by a demonic entity. However, they also do act as a picture of a typical trauma response. Will's episodes remind me a lot of how my panic attacks have felt. My body is overcome with pure terror, and I feel like I'm no longer in my body. While these episodes are happening Will expresses "I just want this to all be over." It is exhausting and terrifying to deal with consistent panic attacks. Those six weeks waiting for my medication to work felt like an eternity. I too, wanted the anxiety and depression to all be over with, but it was a slow process. I like how it shows in the show that even after Will has escaped being in the upside down, everything wasn't automatically better. We think as soon as we get out of a stressful situation that our problems will go away. However, the brain remembers. There's a whole disorder that comes after experiencing trauma. (Post traumatic Stress Disorder.) The brain fights to keep you "safe" from perceived danger. I'll probably make a whole other post about this but I highly value how much his mom is there for him in that season along with his best friend Mike. When Will is having his episodes his friend Mike is always to the first to get to him, and comfort him. He visits Will at his house, and in the hospital as he's going through this process. It's so important to have people in your life supporting you as you go through hard things. I'm so thankful for the friends who have come alongside me, and of course my mom as well. They might not know what to say, but sometimes just being there is enough. His mom and Mike are there to let him know he's not going crazy, or probably my favorite quote of the season, "If we're both going crazy, we'll go crazy together." (Mike and Will are highly underrated characters in the Stranger Things franchise, but carry so much in the series, even if it's more subtle.) You can gain a lot of comfort from others, but in the end you alone (with God) are fighting this battle. 

     Will is the most reserved in the friend group, but when he does speak it's powerful. I am more quiet and reserved so I can definitely relate to this a lot. People may not know what to do with your quietness, and mistake it for weakness. A lot of quiet people are misunderstood. Both introverts and extroverts are important. Introverts observe situations, they are there to really listen, and empathize with people. (Not saying that extroverts don't.) The monster took Will because he thought he was weak, but Will fought and survived alone in an alternate dimension with monsters for a week. In Season 5 Will really shines after being more of a background character for Season 3 and 4. Will fights back, and is able to do incredible things, once he finally believes in himself. After being misunderstood for so long you can become convinced that you can't do as great of things as the others can, but sometimes you can do even greater things. All this to say that for me God must be involved too. I can do incredible things because of God, but not in my own strength. Inner strength is not enough. It doesn't matter what other people think of me, because God sees me as a mighty warrior. A mighty warrior that has overcome so much in life.  In flashbacks you also see Will as a carefree, happy child. Like Will my childhood was cut short due to fear. 

  For me the main villain of the series Vecna can be seen as the devil trying to twist your thoughts. Pointing out your fears, and how you don't measure up to other people. You have to come up against those lies, and fight. Will is quoted in the series saying "the bad guys are smart too." The devil isn't stupid, he's a master manipulator, and he will do everything in his power to pull you away from God. He knows your deepest fears, he knows your mean thoughts, your biggest regrets, etc. In Will's case this has to do with his sexuality, and being isolated from his friends. 

  Will isn't just the gay character in the show who cries a lot. His story goes far more deeper than that. Let me know your favorite character of the show and why? (Just to say too I think Noah Schnapp does an excellent job portraying Will so seamlessly. You really fall for the illusion that he really is Will. The amount of fear he's able to portray during his panic attacks, etc. A lot of people like to pick on his acting, but I think it's so brilliant.) 










Saturday, January 3, 2026

2025 Year in Review

 January 

   During January I watched the first Lord of the Rings for the first time. My roommate decided to set up a movie night at our apartment to watch the extended version of the movie, which was 3 hours long. I still have not seen the other two movies, but I'm glad to finally say I watched at least 1/3 of the Lord of the Rings. I also saw Homestead in theatres with Mary, before going to Honada's afterwards. At the end of the month I watched Donnie Darko for the first time with Rebecca. We had both never seen it, but I had been wanting to watch it. There's a bunch of random actors in the movie including: Patrick Swayze, Jake Gyllenhaal, Drew Barrymore, Seth Rogan, and even Alex Greenwald. Alex Greenwald is the lead singer of my current favorite band Phantom Planet. My uncle unfortunately passed away after battling with kidney problems for years. 

February 

  On Valentine's Day weekend I went to a Galentine's Day party where we ate tacos and made bracelets together. This get together helped me reconnect with my friend Shayna who I hadn't seen in years. For my birthday I took off work and went thrifting and Hobby Lobby. That night I ate dinner at El Camino with a few friends. 


March

  Since my mom has her birthday in February, and my dad has his birthday in March, I bought them a hotel package for their birthdays. A Kenosha Page put together a deal which included a night stay in a hotel overlooking Lake Michigan. $50 worth of gift cards to use at downtown Kenosha businesses. A $50 gift card to use for dinner at an Italian restaurant, and tickets to the Kenosha Comedy Club. The Kenosha Comedy Club had comedians from Saturday Night Live performing that night. While they were in town we went axe throwing, and got lunch in downtown Kenosha the next day. Church put on a benefit concert for the School of Worship and the theme was "At the Movies". Each song performed was taken from a movie. At the end of the month my sister in law played in the Pit Band for the play "Next to Normal" which is a very emotional story about the toll of Bipolar Disorder. We also had a dog party to celebrate Drake and Astro's birthdays which are one day apart. Drake was born on April 2nd, and Astro was born on April 3rd. (different years though). 



April

 Astro turned 1. I went to a clothing thrifting event at the Waukesha Expo Center with Shayna. It was a warmer day so we got boba tea after. I tried contacts for the first time. We had a day that got into the 50s so after church that day, a few friends and I, went out to lunch at Tacos El Norte. We went for a walk at Pet's Park afterwards and I brought Astro along. Astro had fun running and jumping into the stream while we sat on a log over the stream. 


May

  I took off work to go with my friend Shayna to the School of Worship open house, because Shayna was thinking of maybe attending the School of Worship. I went to the 7 mile fair for the first time with my mom. The School of Worship had a Hawaiian themed songwriting showcase. Each student writes two songs in a 9 month period and has the option to perform one of them at the showcase. On Mother's Day Rebecca and I took Astro for a walk in Bristol Woods and found a baby duckling. I went to Treasure Island Florida for 5 days with my Uncle Mike. We stayed at an AirBNB condo looking out at the Gulf of Mexico. The ocean was just across the street. We went to Clearwater beach, hung out at the beach and pool, went to Busch Gardens, went on a dinner cruise on the Coastal highway, saw a manatee, watched dolphins jumping in the water, went snorkeling, and collected seashells while enjoying the sunshine. It was definitely a top memory of 2025. The month ended with the School of Worship graduation. 

















June

 We had another movie night at our apartment where we watched "Clueless." There was a Pet Walk put on by the Wisconsin Humane Society in Milwaukee which I took Astro to. I stopped at Collectivo afterwards for coffee. We celebrated my friend, Mary's 30th birthday by going to a golf simulator. The golf simulator was actually a ton of fun, and you could play games on a screen based on where you hit the ball. (The axe throwing place had games like this too.). I took Astro to Independence Grove Dog Park which is an off leash dog park in Illinois. At the dog park there's a mile loop trail that goes around a pond. Astro really enjoyed playing and swimming with the other dogs there. I also went to a dog friendly restaurant afterwards that had a dog menu where I got Astro chicken and rice. 







July

  July 3rd held my favorite memory of the year. I had found out that 3 of my favorite bands would not only be performing at Summerfest, but would also be performing on the same stage, same day, and one after the other. I was able to meet up with the members of Phantom Planet besides Alex when I first arrived at the Summerfest grounds. I am apart of their Patreon, and due to this they know me by name, and told me they'd come out of the tour bus area to talk with me. They talked to me for a few minutes before going to get ready for the show. I found other fans from the Patreon and we all got pictures with the band after they performed. iDKHOW performed after them, and then Lovejoy went on. Lovejoy hadn't performed anywhere in over a year, so their first show back was in Milwaukee. That's even more why when I first saw their name as a headliner I was shocked. They hadn't announced they were playing at Summerfest at that point. I celebrated Astro's gotcha day. (He had been adopted on July 10th, 2024). I went to see the live action version of How to Train Your Dragon with some friends. We were meant to have a beach day that day, but it was pouring rain that day. My friends CJ and Kaitlyn moved back into town after moving to Ohio in 2021 so CJ could do his residency. I went to 7 bridges for the first time with Astro in Milwaukee. We celebrated my 2nd cousins 80th birthday with a surprise party. My brother and sister in law played the lead roles in Midsummer Night's Dream at the end of the month. 


August

  I went to the State Fair. I took off work and explored Lake Geneva. I visited Independence Grove Dog Park again. I went to Irish Fest for the first time. I went to the Chicago Botanical Gardens to see a jazz band that is lead by one of the elders at Living Light. I went and saw Freakier Friday in theatres, and took Astro to the Windpoint Lighthouse at the end of the month. My friends Machaela and Trae moved back to Wisconsin after living in North Carolina since 2023. 









September

  Celebrated the semi beginning of Fall with a Gilmore Girls watch party at my friend Liz's. My cousin Danielle got married. Saw iDKHOW again, but in Madison. Took Astro to Pawfest in Milwaukee. (A dog festival). Saw "Big Bold Beautiful Journey" in theatres. Saw the original Spiderman in theatres. Took  Astro to Independence Grove Dog Park once again as well as Bark at the Park which was another festival for dogs but in Racine. 














October

   Another movie night at our apartment where we watched "Dirty Dancing." Visited Waterfall Glen Preserve with a group of friends in Illinois along with Astro. We walked rock to rock across a shallow stream. The fall colors had not kicked in yet, but it was still beautiful. When the fall colors did show up I took Astro for a walk at Pet's Park and he played in the stream and dog park there. I went to Richardson's Corn Maze which was Back to the Future themed for the 40th anniversary. Mary and I went with the young adults group at Homestead church. 


November

  Saw Les Miserables on Broadway in Milwaukee. Took Astro to a pumpkin patch in Franklin and then to the Caledonia Dog Park. Watched "The Thorn" with some friends. Went to a shadow box craft night. Saw Part 2 of Wicked on opening night with a coworker. We got together for dinner beforehand, and it was SOO good. Saw Charlie and the Chocolate Factory in musical form. (My sister in law was in the pit band.) Celebrated Thanksgiving with family. 















December

   Went Christmas shopping with a coworker at Gurnee Mills. Went to a dog Christmas market in Milwaukee with Astro. Astro tried a treadmill for dogs for the first time. Went home to celebrate Christmas, and got Christmas Eve off unexpectedly. Went to work for 2 days before coming back home to bring in the new year. For New Year's Eve my mom found games on Pinterest that we could do before midnight came.